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PostSubject: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:37 am

Ok soo... Fearz left...
and his not comming back (for now)
And Arrow and Xerelle, Rose and Luftx, Enheim and Jasera....
i dont want to leave, i want to bring tham all back, so maibe if we try... to do somthing, not just me, i can't tell Fearz to come back, wen ppl from R3N3 are acusing him of steling theyr members (he would never lisen to me)
And about that, Fearz left alone... he didnt even took me with him, Enheim left for Maryposa (his wife, now) jasera weny back to RAVEN, as for Rose.. i think she just folowed Luftx, that i have no ideea why he left...
Even itzugo aparently it taking to long in comming back...

Itzugo sais : come to R3N3 is the fest faction ever we are all like family!
jack sais : ok
Fearz sais : merry me! well be toghether always...
jack says : ok
Itzugo saiz : its so much drama, so many low lvls that shouldnt be here... i'll go for now be back later
Fearz sias : why should i say in a faction that is always acusing me and doesnt lett me do what i want (and other reasons) i'll go for now, maibe i'll come back

jack sais : is it benn long enough? are you too comming back?
Were did everybody go?
Should i be worryd?
Can we try to call tham back?
Do you guys, the rest that stayed, want tham back?
i like R3N3G4D3S and i want it full of friends again... they are so few that have remained and with who i can actualy have fun and play...

i'm sure i'm not the only one that is worried about this! and if i am.... well just let me know, ok?
thanks, i just want to have fun again ...
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:32 am

Well i have to say i agree whit u. We have to do something about this. And i think we should start cleaning up this faction once and for all.... The ppl that is not active enouf,should just leave, so other ppl can have their place. To all u ppl who left PLEAZE come back to us, we need all the high lvl ppl there is. But thats my opinion. Kick out all the lo lvl ppl(under 30 ore 40), and get the high lvl back..
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:01 pm

ermmm not what i said but stil... we dont have to kick anyone yet... just to get some back
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:15 pm

we need to really have a sit down and really try to figure out where this faction is going and lay down some rules that can be enforced. i know i'm tired of watching people leave due to either a select few or because of some unknown drama.

i personally like fearz and would love to have him back in faction, but this faction needs some fixing, alot of fixing.

i'd like to see Itz back as well, but i still say we need one really big meeting, one that includes all the highers in faction and all the people who left and find a way to figure out how to make them come back or how to make the faction better.

personally, i've debated leaving a few times for a faction that goes into TT and does more stuff together, but i stay here cause of many people i actually enjoy seeing day in and out.

so we've got alot of work on our hands
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:37 am

jack_Nel wrote:
ermmm not what i said but stil... we dont have to kick anyone yet... just to get some back

No you dint. I said this is my opinion. And we dont need to kick ppl out. But i agree whit u to reos. Tryed to talk to FEARZ yesterday. He said maybe he will come back. I think if enouf ppl talk to them every day, they will come back. We have to show them that we want them back. And its to bad, when u take this up in factionchat, and no one avnsers u.
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:50 am

i have gotten used to it...
i think .. i'm one of the few that wants em back...
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:20 am

I would so love to have fearz, and everyone that jack mentioned comming back. I DO agree with Reos, there needs to be changes. Someone as an individual can only do so much, but as a groups/faction we can do it if there's more willing to do something. Theres alot of things that shouldn't be happening, but only a select few that cares and has the same ideas which they know who they are.
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:57 pm

It really sucks balls that people keep leaving. Even most of my members that i brought with me have left which is really sad. I mean, they followed me as their leader then left. It honestly breaks my heart.

But here me out on this, there is a simple and logical explanation for all these long time members leaving (at least i think). Its not always a personal reason they left.
They have been in this faction for a very long time. Maybe this was their only faction they have ever been in. You know everyone and how they are, you know whats to come daily. You know who can help you and who cant. You know this faction inside and out... which makes it kinda boring.

Is it your fault? nope.

I say let them go for now. The constant pestering to come back will only make them wanna stay away more (ive learned from experience). If they wanna break from faction to explore others, or to just be guildless then im sure eventually they will miss this guild. This guild is their family no matter what and eventually you get home sick.

So i say, dont worry about it too much and let them do their thing. im sure most of them will wander back Smile
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PostSubject: my turn now   Fri May 01, 2009 10:31 am

i love you all, well not all, but you guys know, and you helped me a lot and i tryed to make things better and i couldnt...
nobody ever listens to me.. idk why but i gues you guys are fine like that... i dont like to see the chat beeng floded by the same person over and over again, and the next day there is another person
VAMPZ you said that by 1st may (today ) you would have cleard all the inactives and all the low lvls...
maibe its Xaro$'s job now and he doesnt think like that... but i think .. it doesnt even matter...
i will miss the ... chat, expecialy your voices you are all grate ppl and i'm sure we will remain friends, i respect you all a lot and i thank you one more time for everithing that you guys did for me ...

good bye JN
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Fri May 01, 2009 12:06 pm

I'll miss you jack...and I hope I'm not one of the reasons why you left
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon May 04, 2009 10:23 am

jack_Nel wrote:
i love you all, well not all, but you guys know, and you helped me a lot and i tryed to make things better and i couldnt...
nobody ever listens to me.. idk why but i gues you guys are fine like that... i dont like to see the chat beeng floded by the same person over and over again, and the next day there is another person
VAMPZ you said that by 1st may (today ) you would have cleard all the inactives and all the low lvls...
maibe its Xaro$'s job now and he doesnt think like that... but i think .. it doesnt even matter...
i will miss the ... chat, expecialy your voices you are all grate ppl and i'm sure we will remain friends, i respect you all a lot and i thank you one more time for everithing that you guys did for me ...

good bye JN
The faction did get cleaned out of inactives...srry it was on the 2nd of may and not the first i definitely appreciate your patience and understanding though Evil or Very Mad You left before the first or 2nd of may anyways....and as far as fearz goes the people that accused him of "stealing" left the faction the same day he did so the reasoning is absurd. Leadership just changed and trying to get things on the right track. Hard to do when the executors/officers of the faction leave.....i mean isnt it part of your guys job to help the faction run smoother? The fact is Fearz left and u followed and it was expected to happen. Im sure when and if Fearz comes back you will too.
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon May 11, 2009 3:09 am

wen you cleaned up... you kicked Itzugo's Brother out of the faction, he diddnt play for a week cuz of his new job, and even tho he was lvl 50+ he still got kicked...
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PostSubject: P O'd   Mon May 11, 2009 10:12 am

Its about builders, I want my FEARZ back! FEARZ and I have literally spent days doing spirit cult bosses together, and I have done it with Xaro$ as well, and I will continue to be available for all that need help, however, ... I did consider FEARZ to be a "core" member and a builder and I am extremely P O'd at the current state of affairs and cannot find a resolution at this time! I have an incling as to what took place and that makes me dissapointed that a "core" member could be offended by some johnny come latelys who simply joined caused insurection and then fk'd off. I've tried to smooth things over with FEARZ, he has his heels dug in pretty deep as would I if someone questioned my integrity. It goes with out saying that I miss jack_Nel as well, I don't know what happened to Crazy_Horses but that was MY CREW, including Matoy we ruled every place we took on slotting Faction members as we could to further thier quests.
Good thing I went on holidays so I am all rested up to take on this fkn mess. I've not said anything until now thinking I could sort this out, ... well I can't and I am really P O'd about it!

I WANT MY FEARZ BACK!

I know you are stressing right now buddy and my own concerns are selfish compared to what you are going through at this time, just know that I do care about you and I will always be your friend! I am commited to building this Faction I just don't shine up easily and am too lazy to train up another Barb! (ya right like I had to train you, other way around would be the truth)

I am keeping a good thought for FEARZ' quick return to our family!
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Mon May 11, 2009 9:16 pm

jack_Nel wrote:
wen you cleaned up... you kicked Itzugo's Brother out of the faction, he diddnt play for a week cuz of his new job, and even tho he was lvl 50+ he still got kicked...

Srry if he got kicked not sure who it was but he is more than welcome back and i did make announcements in faction chat for every person i kicked....i guess no one was left to speak up for him....i cant imagine why *rolls eyes*
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue May 12, 2009 4:42 am

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jack_Nel wrote:
wen you cleaned up... you kicked Itzugo's Brother out of the faction, he diddnt play for a week cuz of his new job, and even tho he was lvl 50+ he still got kicked...

Srry if he got kicked not sure who it was but he is more than welcome back and i did make announcements in faction chat for every person i kicked....i guess no one was left to speak up for him....i cant imagine why *rolls eyes*

yea i gues he was left alone...

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This faction can not be a revovling door anymore, you leave once and decide to come back its fine....2nd time you leave your not getting back in without a vote. 3 strikes your out....i mean how many times can we allow the same people coming in, using us quick, benefiting from us, then running to nefarious or legendary.

and Xar, you are a fery good guy and a very good friend, but only FEARZ and I left for legendary...all your latest posts involve the word "Legendary" abd both of us only joind and left the faction once, this last rule was made for us... we are not abusing R3N3G4D3S, and if we chose to come back as far as i see our votes will be rather few...
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WTf is wrong with u people, do you have that big of egos where you must run to the 2 guilds that own territorys.....I couldve been in Nef or Legendary many times but i always tell them srry but my faction/family comes first. Guess thats not true for all of you, some of you need recognition that you will never get.......for instance you own land but i never heard of you! Oh well guess the people that ran to nef and Leg are better off cuz that got what they needed....But if thats true why do the 2 biggest guilds keep calling me for a tank?!?!?!?! your not as powerful as you seem i got respect for you cuz you know what it takes to own territorys.....at least your leader/officals do but honestly you have no clue your just as noob as the rest of us so keep on following the 2 best guilds in the game....and when u get kicked dont come crying back.

every single last post you made is a offence, at list for me, it feels sad to see this, if FEARZ and i left doesnt meen we cant still be friends...
how come Xerelle and i still zhen toghether or do rebirth even tho we are not in the same faction...
wen i left i left a message saing if you need me call me. i'll always be there for my friends...
and thank you Ary for stil beeng my friend... other than her, nobody caled my for anithing alce.. i gues you dont need me anymore, i say friends should help eichother even if they cant be in the same place....
i diddnt post this to upset anyone, i just wantet to tell you how bad i feel...
you can ban my acount on this forum since i'm not in the faction anymore...
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PostSubject: Re: ermmm topic to make myself feel better...   Tue May 12, 2009 7:21 am

If you seriously thought the post about the revolving door was specifically made for you, you have an even bigger ego than i thought.....It was made for numerous people and actually you and fearz were not even one of them.....My biggest concerns were stacks, arrow, you know the people that leave every other week......dont assume things and think before you speak. P.s. your taking everything like its directed toward you....we have had people leave for nefarious and other factions too i just think its sad that you people are more concerned about the status quo and your actual family. Im done sugar coating shit and im telling it how it is, as far as the unofficial rules go, They are unofficial and MY opinions which ive stated at least 3 times during posting them. As far as banning your account, doesnt that seem a little dramatic your more than welcome to post on forums just like everyone else on the game its always been that way, I understand your upset but your taking everything wayyyyy too personal. The game doesnt revolve around you your only 1 person although your opinions do count. NO ONE is against you per say. Im against the STATUS QUO and im against the pathetic excuses people have for leaving, your reason is you followed FEARZ and i respect that hes your husband but at this point in my opinion its just about status to him because the same people that he got involved in drama with in faction chat left the same day he did....Problem solved yet he never came back..........Then people started following his example he was a core member and when a core member quit's it caused alot of issues and problems that coulve been avoided easily

BTW you take offense to something that was said in the RANT section where people are supposed to be able to be free and say whatever they want. Rolling Eyes I guess i cant express how I feel in rant section because it offends you so tell me this.....Where the FUCK can i rant then?!?! Tell me where i can express and voice my opinions.
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PostSubject: stop it   Tue May 12, 2009 9:37 am

no more of this nit picking, here's a rock solid question, don't pussy foot around it answer it straight up, I want the truth and not vague ramblings or inflamed rhetoric.

How can we move towards reconciliation? Please think hard before you answer me.

Use the private msg system on the forum and tell me what it is really gonna take to resolve this!

Lets get progressive and positive and get this resolved please! (then maybe I can feel better)
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